14:00:26 <licquia> #startmeeting LSB Bug Triage 2014 Jun 13 14:00:26 <lsbbot> Meeting started Fri Jun 13 14:00:26 2014 UTC. The chair is licquia. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:26 <lsbbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:01:14 <mwichmann> ok 14:01:18 <licquia> good morning 14:02:29 <licquia> #info lsb: 3 new, 1 reopened, 1 needinfo 14:02:42 <licquia> #info fhs: 16 new 14:02:52 <mwichmann> for some value of "new" 14:03:00 <licquia> yes, true 14:03:16 <mwichmann> just being silly, new == untriaged 14:03:29 <licquia> that would be the "some value" :-) 14:03:30 <orc_fedo> fhs new -- heh 14:04:03 <licquia> alrighty 14:04:13 <licquia> !lsbbug 3195 14:04:16 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3195 normal, P2, ---, licquia, REOPENED , LSB packages with unowned directories uninstallable on some rpm implementations. 14:04:34 * mwichmann nags 14:04:43 <orc_fedo> didnnt we look at this last week 14:05:05 <mwichmann> it needs licquia to crank a release, and he never does 14:05:10 <licquia> yup; no status 14:05:17 <mwichmann> nag nag nag 14:05:22 <licquia> i really need to just do this 14:05:34 <orc_fedo> __please__ 14:05:56 <licquia> *sigh* 14:06:22 <licquia> !lsbbug 3972 14:06:25 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3972 normal, P2, ---, licquia, NEW , Apache Tests(2.2.14-8) Fail on x86_64: Failed to prepare apache 14:06:27 <mwichmann> one has sympathy for "other things taking all my time" since that describes my state 14:07:24 <licquia> so, stuff waiting on releases: qmtest-harness, app-checker 14:07:39 <licquia> (and the bundles they are a part of) 14:09:10 <mwichmann> yeah... I've forgotten by now if we got out all the others, but don't care :) 14:09:22 <licquia> ok, on 3972: think we're waiting on feedback from the bug submitter 14:09:28 * licquia switches status 14:09:44 <orc_fedo> add a ping and change to needinfo, if so 14:10:02 <mwichmann> it was needinfo 14:10:23 <mwichmann> he's added some stuff, but those are new issues 14:10:43 <mwichmann> comment 34 14:11:36 <licquia> are we on the same bug? 3972 shows new to me, and only has 29 comments 14:11:46 <mwichmann> oh 14:12:01 <mwichmann> no, looks like I have 3982 open 14:12:13 <orc_fedo> silly numbers all look alike 14:12:23 <licquia> last comments were one from me, asking him to run something and report the result, and a question from you re: it being yocto 14:12:47 <orc_fedo> so: ... add a ping and change to needinfo 14:13:09 <orc_fedo> wonder how we missed this one last week 14:13:28 <licquia> think we talked about it, and decided to just leave it 14:13:42 <licquia> as the feedback and new comments were truly new back then 14:14:16 <orc_fedo> gotta chase the piggies through the races; taking the clone axe to new issues also comes to mind 14:14:24 <licquia> anyway, set to needinfo now, and added a ping to the submitter 14:14:50 <mwichmann> we never "assigned" it since we know it's "not our bug" 14:15:06 <licquia> yeah, will probably end up NOTOURBUG 14:15:20 <licquia> !lsbbug 3982 14:15:23 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3982 major, P2, ---, licquia, NEEDINFO , Unable to link Qt5WebKit using LSB 4.1 (lsbc++) 14:15:33 <mwichmann> see comment above 14:17:41 <licquia> bzip2 should be a fairly easy static link, actually 14:17:50 <licquia> nothing super-special about it 14:17:52 <mwichmann> sure 14:18:14 <licquia> and he might end up in a better place with lsb-native xcb 14:18:59 <mwichmann> well, then tied to 5.0 14:19:07 <mwichmann> he was already worried about tying to 4.1 14:19:17 <licquia> true, but practically that should work out 14:19:20 <mwichmann> so that doesn't seem a great choice (except as experiment, as I noted) 14:19:24 <licquia> pretty much everyone does xcb 14:19:40 <mwichmann> I guess since it's a library, not an app, it's not really the same problem 14:21:49 <mwichmann> using a too-new library, I mean 14:22:56 * licquia adds a note to the bug; we'll see how that goes 14:23:50 <licquia> !lsbbug 3988 14:23:52 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3988 normal, P2, ---, licquia, NEW , opt directory for fedora 14:24:27 <licquia> lanana request, on the list 14:25:59 <orc_fedo> seems reasonable -- push and get it over with ;) 14:26:08 <licquia> yup 14:26:16 <licquia> !lsbbug 3989 14:26:18 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3989 normal, P2, ---, herrold, NEW , set up web form, captcha, to gate into mailing list for lsb@lanana.org 14:27:20 * licquia has thought about some kind of workflow for lanana requests; perhaps funneling lsb@lanana into bugzilla, or something else 14:27:22 <orc_fedo> I am a tad embarrased that stuff lingers and that there is not an open look into pending stuff 14:27:37 <orc_fedo> thus my bug 14:27:40 <licquia> problem with bugzilla is the whole signing up for an acct stuff 14:27:55 <licquia> and other systems would require setup, programming, etc. 14:28:03 <orc_fedo> well ... the spam alternative is less appealing still 14:28:07 <licquia> true 14:28:22 <licquia> and we do get spam to that address occasionally 14:29:22 <orc_fedo> perhaps add to the web commo: drop into the IRC channel and we will file for you if you lack a bugzilla acct -- we can then set up a email address and no passwd acct s well 14:29:23 <licquia> if anyone feels motivated: we basically ask for the info on the page linked in the bug 14:29:28 <orc_fedo> that in addition to this bug 14:29:44 <orc_fedo> hand me the bug and I'll dink on it 14:29:55 <licquia> k 14:30:17 <licquia> if you can get something working with some random email address, i can funnel lsb@lanana.org into that 14:30:26 <orc_fedo> will do 14:30:35 * licquia notes it's assigned to orc_fedo; setting assigned 14:31:13 <orc_fedo> I'll drop the email address into a variable and never expose it to the sender, to try to hold spam down 14:31:18 <licquia> k 14:31:24 <orc_fedo> we also could reassign that intermediate address at well 14:31:54 <licquia> yup, however it works 14:32:20 <licquia> ok, that's lsb 14:32:29 <licquia> move on to fhs? or something else? 14:33:03 <mwichmann> fhs is good 14:33:23 * mwichmann notes, while licquia is listening, that I need some RE wizardry 14:33:35 <licquia> k 14:33:41 <mwichmann> but it's not a bug (unless I file it as one :) 14:33:46 <licquia> heh 14:34:06 * licquia shudders to think of that script as a piece of official lsb infrastructure :-) 14:34:20 <licquia> !fhsbug 786 14:34:22 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://bugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786 enhancement, P2, ---, licquia, NEW , Define a mount point for Linux CGROUPS 14:35:07 <mwichmann> well, the thing it's patching up the mistakes from is in our bzr tree... 14:35:22 <licquia> true 14:35:36 <licquia> but we already know that's busted 14:36:05 * licquia observes that fedora, opensuse, and ubuntu all seem to mount cgroup stuff under /sys/fs/cgroup 14:36:06 <mwichmann> for 786, is anyone using different than /sys/fs/cgroup? 14:36:16 <mwichmann> what he said 14:36:31 <licquia> should check on debian unstable, but if they're doing the same, it's a hat trick 14:36:36 <mwichmann> hoist that up the flagpole and see if anyone complains? 14:36:44 <mwichmann> I'll boot that vm while we wait 14:37:13 <mwichmann> well, it's testing, not unstable 14:37:47 <licquia> testing should work too; the systemd progress is far enough along 14:37:59 <mwichmann> will report in a moment 14:38:17 <licquia> while you're doing that, i'll type up the beginnings of a report on the current state 14:39:05 <mwichmann> it's systemd'd, and /sys/fs/cgroup 14:39:52 <licquia> nice 14:40:17 <orc_fedo> all that debian wailing and moaning, and the initscript conversion was uneventful? golly 14:40:26 <licquia> heh 14:40:40 <licquia> the event was the wailing and moaning, which is still going on 14:40:40 <mwichmann> yeah, it did that some time ago, and didn't seem to hiccup 14:41:21 * licquia just read a blog post by a debian guy being very careful about some new feature that kinda required bits of systemd to function 14:41:22 <orc_fedo> part of getting an @debian email address is a demonstrated capacity to wail, perhaps 14:41:49 <licquia> actually, nearly all the wailing is coming from non-@debian.org places 14:41:53 <licquia> at least right now 14:42:27 <mwichmann> my linux mint vm installs went super-smoothly, I was impressed, it auto-set up lvm the right way, and even figured it was running under virtualbox and pulled in the right client pkgs without even asking 14:42:37 <licquia> there was the decision process, which was contentious and full of bile, but now that the decision's made, we seem to have moved on 14:42:44 <mwichmann> debian may end up kicked to the curb here if it keeps going well 14:43:04 <licquia> interesting; linux mint debian edition, or the regular one? 14:43:24 <mwichmann> sorry, that was supposed to be "ubuntu may end up..." 14:43:54 <licquia> ah 14:43:58 <mwichmann> regular, with cinnamon 14:44:17 * licquia likes unity, but has otherwise been mildly impressed with mint 14:44:27 <orc_fedo> I add honey and cinnamon to my bagle each morning, along with buter, and sometimes peantu butter 14:45:25 <licquia> orc_fedo: but no mate? (sorry, couldn't resist) 14:45:39 <orc_fedo> licquia: cannot get vegamite locally 14:45:58 * licquia remembers that mate is a brazilian coffee/tea-like drink 14:46:02 <orc_fedo> or is that vegimate ? 14:46:16 <mwichmann> checkmate 14:46:39 <orc_fedo> next lsb bug from the crypt ... 14:47:12 * licquia finishes writing up the cgroup thing 14:47:55 <licquia> !fhsbug 786 14:47:57 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://bugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786 enhancement, P2, ---, licquia, ASSIGNED , Define a mount point for Linux CGROUPS 14:48:03 <licquia> whoops, mistype 14:48:10 <licquia> !fhsbug 790 14:48:13 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://bugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790 major, P2, ---, licquia, NEW , adjtime should not be in /var/lib 14:49:19 * licquia looks at the current state of this too 14:49:36 <licquia> significant conversation here, but no movement of the bug 14:50:09 <mwichmann> looking at same debian, thing doesn't seem to exist at all 14:50:14 <mwichmann> oops, bkfst ready 14:50:19 <mwichmann> may not be active for a bit 14:50:42 <orc_fedo> checking C 6 14:51:50 <orc_fedo> C has it in the initscripts package, but at: /etc/adjtime 14:52:25 <licquia> there's a file of that name in debian, too 14:52:31 <licquia> not owned by a package 14:52:47 <licquia> ditto for ubuntu 14:52:53 <licquia> checking opensuse... 14:52:54 <orc_fedo> /usr/src/debug/glibc-2.12-2-gc4ccff1/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/adjtime.c 14:53:37 * licquia looks 14:53:46 <orc_fedo> there is a man 2 and 3 ... and the additional form: /usr/share/man/man2/adjtimex.2.gz 14:55:38 <licquia> on debian-ish systems, /etc/adjtime is managed by util-linux 14:56:10 <orc_fedo> almost everyone builds ntp as well and so it prolly just faded away 14:58:40 <licquia> i'm going to unhook from 3.0, attach to 3.1, and ask whether there's been any movement on this from the distros 15:01:00 <licquia> ok, that's done 15:01:12 <licquia> we got two rather complicated issues out of the fhs backlog, at least 15:01:31 <licquia> anything else we want to discuss here? 15:02:55 <licquia> alrighty 15:02:58 <licquia> #endmeeting