15:00:14 <licquia> #startmeeting LSB Bug Triage 2013 Jan 24
15:00:15 <lsbbot> Meeting started Fri Jan 24 15:00:14 2014 UTC.  The chair is licquia. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:00:28 <licquia> morning everyone
15:00:35 <mwichmann> hiya
15:01:37 <licquia> #info lsb: 5 new (sorta)
15:01:57 <mwichmann> yeah... all part of the same thing, just need marking
15:02:36 <licquia> #info fhs: 28 new
15:03:42 <licquia> so just mark all those assigned and be done with it?
15:04:03 <mwichmann> we could also choose to reject and say "there will never be another release"
15:04:09 <licquia> heh
15:04:09 <mwichmann> dunno if that gets an emoticon or not
15:04:38 <licquia> #agreed mark new 5.1 release blocker bugs assigned
15:06:12 <licquia> ok; shall we move on to beta bugs?
15:06:24 <mwichmann> here's a quick one:
15:06:29 <mwichmann> !lsbbug 1083
15:06:31 <lsbbot> mwichmann: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1083 normal, P3, 4.1, mats, ASSIGNED , Need to add TIOCSWINSZ to spec
15:07:19 <mwichmann> a guy (gregory fong) has been pestering me about this for a while now
15:08:24 <mwichmann> we have it marked funny (target 4.1)
15:08:39 * licquia reviews the bug comments, sees he's commented on it before
15:09:02 <mwichmann> yeah, but that was six years ago :)
15:09:25 <licquia> so this is basically a #define?
15:09:40 <licquia> (and possibly a mention in a man page)
15:09:43 <mwichmann> yes, plus a little stuff in the manpage
15:09:58 <mwichmann> posix has no ioctl manpage, so we maintain our own
15:10:25 <licquia> i think we've migrated a bit in the last six years re: attitude towards new things
15:10:34 <licquia> so i'm inclined to say it's ok
15:10:38 <mwichmann> okay, I finally remembered to bring it up... we can move on to beta bugs
15:10:46 <licquia> next question: 5.0 or 5.1?
15:11:26 <licquia> i.e. is 1083 a beta bug, or a "next" bug?
15:11:44 <mwichmann> the actual add is extremely trivial, but we can consider if there are other impacts we care about (like testing?)
15:12:21 <licquia> don't think i'm worried about a test case at this point, so i'm ok with making it a beta bug
15:12:51 <mwichmann> I'll need a bit of info from you then, we can do offline (values on two arches)
15:14:06 <licquia> #agreed attach 1083 to lsb 5.0
15:14:53 <licquia> ok, looking at big additions to the spec, to assess status
15:15:10 <licquia> !lsbbug 707
15:15:13 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707 normal, P2, 4.1-errata, mats, ASSIGNED , Uplift OpenGL specs
15:16:04 <licquia> recalling that this went in, but not seeing the documentation in the bug
15:16:04 <mwichmann> as far as a beta goes, done
15:16:14 <mwichmann> oh... right
15:16:24 <licquia> ok, so close?
15:16:31 <licquia> or is there something left to do?
15:17:42 <mwichmann> I'm confused (esp. since target says 4.1), let me study offline
15:18:02 <licquia> ok, leaving
15:18:25 <licquia> #action mwichmann figure out status of 707
15:18:54 <licquia> !lsbbug 1761
15:18:57 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1761 enhancement, P2, 5.0, mats, ASSIGNED , add libncursesw to the LSB
15:19:49 <mwichmann> we know 1761: need to sort some doc things, but functionality is there
15:19:58 <licquia> looks like we're missing pkgconfig scripts, too
15:20:41 <mwichmann> ah, we did come up with that recently, didn't we - my fiddling with the lynx build turned that up
15:20:41 <licquia> alright, leaving alone
15:20:46 <mwichmann> memory like a seive
15:20:59 <licquia> must be getting old :-)
15:21:17 <licquia> !lsbbug 1857
15:21:19 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1857 enhancement, P3, 5.0, licquia, ASSIGNED , add dbus to LSB
15:21:29 <licquia> that one needs to move, i think
15:21:47 <mwichmann> the pkgconfig would be good to get (1761) since that's real fuctionality missing... any chance?...
15:22:17 <licquia> yes, pkgconfig should happen; does it need its own bug?
15:22:39 <mwichmann> it's part of adding ncursesw, but maybe a separate bug is warranted
15:22:51 <mwichmann> because it needs to cover ncurses too
15:23:02 <licquia> makes sense; want to file it, or should i?
15:23:14 <mwichmann> you please
15:23:31 <mwichmann> sorry multitasking with another chat-conference
15:23:43 <licquia> #action licquia file bug for pkgconfig files for ncurses/ncursesw (based off bug 1761)
15:23:49 <licquia> ok, back to dbus
15:24:03 * licquia moves that target to 5.1, with accompanying explanation
15:24:48 <mwichmann> !lsbbug 2199
15:24:51 <lsbbot> mwichmann: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2199 enhancement, P2, 5.0, mats, ASSIGNED , RFE: Include libsane interfaces in LSB
15:25:09 <mwichmann> that's in, and work done the previous few weeks suggests one can actually build with it
15:26:23 <mwichmann> I'm sure there's a doc issue keeping it from closing, and we don't really have tests/appbat
15:27:28 <licquia> yeah, i think glen got sidetracked before he retired
15:27:43 <licquia> do we know of a doc issue?
15:28:47 * licquia is inclined to treat future problems with sane as their own bugs, and not part of the "adding sane" task
15:29:19 <mwichmann> okay, add a note that I should check if there is actually any doc, I've forgotten
15:29:23 <mwichmann> then we could close
15:29:42 <licquia> #action mwichmann check for doc issue on 2199 (sane)
15:30:32 <mwichmann> !lsbbug 2299
15:30:34 <lsbbot> mwichmann: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2299 enhancement, P2, 5.0, mats, ASSIGNED , RFE: add /proc specification
15:30:43 <licquia> beat me to it :-)
15:30:45 <mwichmann> I forgot we'd even marked this up
15:31:03 <mwichmann> it's not a functionality addition, but no idea who would write....
15:31:43 <licquia> i think we should move to "future", and evaluate post-beta
15:31:54 <licquia> never did see any feedback from kernel folks
15:32:02 <mwichmann> ok for me
15:33:13 <licquia> #agreed unhook 2299 from lsb 5.0
15:33:41 <licquia> !lsbbug 2863
15:33:43 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2863 normal, P2, 5.0, mats, ASSIGNED , Uplift qt4 for LSB 5.0
15:34:19 <licquia> never happened, but one thing i would like to see
15:34:38 <licquia> there's a dependent bug on a deprecation
15:34:46 <licquia> !lsbbug 3781
15:34:49 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3781 normal, P2, 5.0, mats, ASSIGNED , Deprecate QPixmap::handle() for LSB 5.0
15:35:32 <licquia> looking to see if that's important for deprecation
15:36:12 * licquia notes that the deprecations appear to be live
15:36:20 <licquia> so maybe there's nothing left to do
15:37:11 <mwichmann> maybe, hard for me to check because of the mangling
15:37:44 * licquia checks
15:38:49 <licquia> spot check for QPixmap::x11Info() shows "deprecated since 5.0"
15:39:09 <licquia> so we can close the deprecation bug, it would seem
15:40:02 <mwichmann> ok
15:40:17 <licquia> #agreed close 3781 as done
15:40:30 <licquia> so, then, move the rest of qt 4 to next release?
15:40:47 <mwichmann> I see no choice
15:41:15 <licquia> ok
15:41:25 <mwichmann> !lsbbug 2902
15:41:28 <lsbbot> mwichmann: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2902 enhancement, P2, 4.1-updates, mats, ASSIGNED , RFE: Add symbols for libnspr4
15:41:30 <licquia> #agreed move 2863 to next release
15:41:54 <mwichmann> the work here is done, open for docs, we never really heard from upstream
15:41:57 * licquia has a browser hiccup, just a sec
15:45:36 <licquia> ok, think i'm caught up now
15:46:41 <licquia> so we need to write new docs, or just update doc links?
15:47:46 <mwichmann> nspr?  I can't find links for these, largely
15:47:53 <mwichmann> that was the issue wanted upstream comment on
15:48:05 <mwichmann> if I recall, there's already been plenty of water under the bridge
15:48:56 <licquia> so we need a new snapshot, with the new interfaces, it looks like
15:49:31 <mwichmann> that would be really good, if it exists
15:49:37 <licquia> ok
15:49:58 <licquia> #action licquia file new bug for new snapshot of nspr for 2902
15:50:07 <licquia> anything else we need before calling 2902 done?
15:51:33 <mwichmann> I think this one would be okay
15:51:40 <licquia> ok
15:52:05 <mwichmann> bug happened because some things were using these extra funcs if they existed, if those work better now, we have an app
15:52:11 <mwichmann> of course I've forgotten details by now
15:52:25 <licquia> yup, notes in bug confirm it
15:52:39 <licquia> !lsbbug 3470
15:52:42 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3470 enhancement, P1, 5.0, mats, ASSIGNED , RFE: uplift libc version in LSB
15:53:07 <licquia> there's a few dependent bugs still open on that one
15:53:14 <mwichmann> I did what I did, not sure I can prove it's all done/correct, but that could be new bugs
15:53:31 <licquia> !lsbbug 2432
15:53:33 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2432 enhancement, P2, 5.0, mats, ASSIGNED , add futimes, futimesat to LSB
15:53:44 * orc_emac_ hits the office
15:53:56 <mwichmann> I guess the last state there was "waiting for review of proposed manpage"
15:54:04 <licquia> yup, just noticed
15:54:21 <licquia> #action licquia review manpage for 2432
15:54:37 <licquia> !lsbbug 3617
15:54:39 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3617 normal, P2, 5.0, mats, ASSIGNED , RFE: Uplift pthread_attr_setstack version for ppc32/ppc64
15:55:08 <mwichmann> for this one someone will have to look, as the trail in the bug ends without saying if it was applied
15:55:23 <mwichmann> and before I started using the patch?+- stuff to help as a reminder
15:55:30 <licquia> #action licquia check on status of sql in 3617
15:56:02 <licquia> ok, so we can't close 3470, but i think we're ok with closing it once the dependent bugs are closed
15:56:21 <licquia> make sense?
15:56:48 <mwichmann> I think so
15:57:04 <licquia> #agreed 3470 is done once its dependent bugs are closed
15:58:01 <licquia> whoa
15:58:06 <licquia> !lsbbug 3482
15:58:09 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3482 enhancement, P2, 5.0, mats, ASSIGNED , syscall is missing from LSB spec
15:58:23 <mwichmann> I think we need to kick this out
15:58:27 * licquia feels like not touching this one with a 10-foot pole, especially for beta :-)
15:58:40 <mwichmann> ref last comment: Attached to LSB 5.0 spec rollup, to remind us to do the research again.
15:58:45 <mwichmann> but we really didn't
15:58:59 <mwichmann> nxtrel
16:00:11 <licquia> ok, top of the hour
16:00:13 <mwichmann> goody, but 3511 is a blocker, last thing there said "closing this one" but it's still open.  I say close it.
16:00:31 <licquia> think we made some good progress
16:00:32 <mwichmann> I'll do
16:00:34 <licquia> ok
16:00:42 <licquia> #agreed close 3511
16:00:49 <mwichmann> yes, but we need to do this again sooner
16:01:02 <mwichmann> not sure when we can schedule
16:01:09 * licquia will likely have more time next week to do some review on his own
16:01:15 <licquia> #endmeeting