14:00:37 <licquia> #startmeeting LSB Bug Triage 2013 May 30
14:00:37 <lsbbot> Meeting started Thu May 30 14:00:37 2013 UTC.  The chair is licquia. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:00:50 <licquia> morning all
14:01:01 * mwichmann grunts
14:01:03 <denis_silakov> hi jeff:)
14:01:14 * licquia is glad denver's airport is being helpful today
14:01:20 * licquia waves to denis_silakov
14:01:37 <mwichmann> it's working (slowly), but I had to get up at 3am to start this trip
14:01:41 <mwichmann> I may nod off any moment....
14:01:48 <licquia> ick
14:02:03 * licquia starts a script to add a mention to mwichmann every few minutes :-)
14:02:16 <mwichmann> naturally, needing sleep badly, I couldn't get to sleep
14:02:32 * mwichmann turns off speaker in defense
14:02:36 <licquia> heh
14:03:13 <licquia> #info 0 unconfirmed, 4 new, 0 reopened, 0 needinfo, 0 pleasetest
14:03:41 <licquia> !lsbbug 3790
14:03:43 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3790 normal, P2, ---, licquia, NEW , duplicated tet3 runtime source in vsxgen; can we eliminate one?
14:04:45 <licquia> first thing: drop to p3, enhancement
14:05:07 <licquia> (it works, just creates more work and hassle when fixing tet-harness bugs)
14:07:03 <licquia> anyone want to argue this should block something?
14:07:35 <mwichmann> not me
14:07:47 <licquia> ok, done
14:08:10 <licquia> #agreed set 3790 to p3, enhancement, mark assigned; will get to when we can
14:08:23 <licquia> !lsbbug 3791
14:08:26 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3791 normal, P2, ---, licquia, NEW , Failure in /olver/ncurses/terminal/tests/vidattr_spec 1
14:09:25 <licquia> lots of activity and feedback from ksrot
14:10:18 <denis_silakov> he actually suggested a patch...
14:10:33 <licquia> yup; the explanation looks reasonable
14:11:37 <licquia> i think we should attach to stable update (though we won't get to it this time around, most likely)
14:12:54 <mwichmann> that's reasonable, as long as patch goes into devel too so we (well, you and karel) can see it works in a more timely fashion
14:13:38 <licquia> any objections to a waiver?  i tend to agree with the analysis that we're overly reliant on stdio buffering here
14:14:04 <denis_silakov> no objections
14:14:25 <licquia> #agreed waive 3791, attach to next stable update
14:14:38 <licquia> #action write problem_db2 entry for 3791
14:15:10 <licquia> !lsbbug 3792
14:15:13 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3792 normal, P2, ---, licquia, NEW , failure in  /tset/POSIX.os/files/posix_madvise/T.posix_madvise 3
14:16:33 <denis_silakov> there is a patch suggested again
14:17:19 <mwichmann> the job of protecting against unexpected "under the covers" effects in testing is so wonderful :(
14:17:57 <licquia> yeah; i'm always thrilled by those "magic constant" tests
14:18:31 <licquia> "take a stick of ram out of your machine to make the test pass"
14:18:47 <mwichmann> whee, third flight delay email since this meeting started; 10:10 -> 10:45 -> 11:28 -> 11:45
14:19:30 <licquia> some kind of weather weirdness on the west coast?
14:19:43 <mwichmann> dunno where plane is coming from
14:20:00 <mwichmann> 'late arriving aircraft' is as much as they'll admit to
14:20:22 * licquia proposes waiver, next stable update for 3792
14:20:26 <licquia> objections?
14:21:59 <mwichmann> not here
14:22:10 <licquia> ok
14:22:23 <licquia> #agreed waive 3792, fix next stable update
14:22:40 <licquia> #action write problem_db2 entry for 3792
14:23:29 <licquia> !lsbbug 3793
14:23:31 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3793 normal, P2, ---, licquia, NEW , certain errors appearing twice in results, not being parsed properly
14:24:11 <licquia> this is a problem with dist-checker's reporting
14:25:08 <licquia> the fun with bug 3345 and tet-harness temp files produced a journal with a NORESULT on the test that was run last, and the test executable just gave up
14:25:53 <licquia> dist-checker reported that failure twice: once as expected, and then a second time as an unknown unreported error
14:26:16 <licquia> afaict, there's no way to waive the second "phantom failure"
14:26:31 <mwichmann> you just said a noresult ended up in the journal....
14:26:53 <mwichmann> and the test case is probably incomplete
14:26:54 <licquia> right, but there's two "results" being reported for the same test
14:27:14 <licquia> dist-checker should probably deal with that explicitly
14:27:22 <mwichmann> seems like that used to cause a claim the journal is invalid, maybe trying to work around that causes problem?
14:27:30 * mwichmann defers to denis_silakov anyway
14:27:35 <licquia> could be
14:28:30 <licquia> anyway, next vip stable update?  (not this go-round)
14:29:54 * licquia makes it so
14:30:29 <licquia> #agreed attach 3793 to next stable update
14:31:12 <licquia> ok, that's it for "interesting" bugs
14:31:36 <licquia> we talked about looking at 5.0 bug priorities in the meeting yesterday; up for that?
14:32:13 <mwichmann> I can lurk
14:33:19 <licquia> i'm looking at https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/en/Uplift_Target
14:33:35 <licquia> for the bug list
14:33:41 <licquia> #info looking at 5.0 priorities
14:33:50 <licquia> !lsbbug 3470
14:33:53 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3470 enhancement, P2, 5.0, mats, ASSIGNED , RFE: uplift libc version in LSB
14:34:20 <licquia> mostly done, i think, though there's an outstanding question re: dialing back to 2.13
14:35:02 * licquia adds a note to that effect
14:35:18 <mwichmann> I don't think my notes are on that machine
14:35:28 <mwichmann> uh-oh, another delay msg
14:35:51 <mwichmann> -> 12:43, this is getting ridiculous
14:36:14 <licquia> wow
14:37:31 * licquia marks the glibc bug as higher priority, given how old 4.1's glibc is
14:37:45 <mwichmann> right now, I can't say what would be impacted by dialing back a bit
14:38:13 <licquia> what, you can't recite the glibc changelog from memory in an airport with no sleep?  :-)
14:39:14 <licquia> #agreed bump priority up on 3470 (glibc)
14:40:01 <mwichmann> no, i can't. this probably why I'm unemployed now.
14:40:10 <licquia> heh
14:40:59 <mwichmann> info in the bug is uncollated, but there are at least a few things... scandirat, some bug-fixed versions of things, etc.
14:41:11 <licquia> !lsbbug 3748
14:41:13 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3748 enhancement, P2, 5.0, mats, ASSIGNED , RFE: add missing pthread functions
14:41:38 <licquia> related to glibc, not sure it's the same priority
14:42:19 <licquia> hmm; noting that the sql for those appears to have been applied
14:42:29 <mwichmann> implemented, not sure of rest of the state
14:42:33 <licquia> checking navigator...
14:42:57 <mwichmann> I think these are posix funcs
14:43:45 <licquia> getclock is posix 2008, acc. to navigator
14:43:55 <licquia> and it reports as added in 5.0
14:43:58 <licquia> close?
14:44:46 <mwichmann> probably, no idea why I left open... maybe some feeble notion we might want tests, and/or if we just close we forget that?
14:45:18 * mwichmann has relocated next to power outlet
14:45:59 <licquia> probably should address tests via code coverage analysis at this stage, imho
14:46:08 <licquia> (we know we don't test lots of things)
14:46:29 <denis_silakov> agree, we never keep such bugs open due to tests
14:46:41 <denis_silakov> we would have to keep too many bugs opened then
14:46:55 <licquia> heh
14:47:05 <mwichmann> do we have a tested field in the db? or is that generated some other way
14:47:14 <mwichmann> I know we have a documented/not flag
14:47:21 <denis_silakov> there is a TestInt table with mapping
14:47:25 <licquia> there's info in navigator about test status
14:47:47 <denis_silakov> yeah, navigator takes data from TestInt
14:47:57 <denis_silakov> though that table was last updated with 4.0 release...
14:48:29 <licquia> might be worth doing another coverage analysis at some point
14:48:55 <licquia> mwichmann: do you object to closing this one?
14:49:15 <mwichmann> no
14:49:18 <licquia> ok
14:49:25 <licquia> #agreed close 3748 as resolved
14:50:16 <licquia> !lsbbug 1391
14:50:18 <lsbbot> licquia: 04Bug http://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1391 enhancement, P2, 5.0, mats, ASSIGNED , add async I/O interfaces to LSB
14:51:20 <licquia> this looks like it's in the same state; there's a "pushed" comment
14:51:28 <mwichmann> yes
14:51:39 <licquia> same deal?  close?
14:51:55 <mwichmann> maybe a little research, I've forgotten....
14:52:07 * licquia checks navigator
14:52:08 <mwichmann> aio has *64 interfaces, which thus aren't covered by posix
14:52:46 <mwichmann> these might be in the original lfs doc, but maybe not, so there could be doc completeness issue
14:53:48 <mwichmann> go ahead and close if there isn't
14:54:17 <licquia> interesting; some of aio_* is marked as "included since 1.0"
14:54:32 <licquia> indeed, it's either "never been in lsb" or "included since 1.0"
14:54:41 <mwichmann> it went in once, then was pulled out again
14:54:48 <licquia> ah
14:54:59 <denis_silakov> yes, in such cases navigator selects the lowest version
14:55:11 <licquia> and it looks like the aio_foo64 versions are in too
14:55:13 <mwichmann> i thought the issues on that were addressed
14:55:23 * licquia closes
14:55:25 <mwichmann> (navigator display of multiples)
14:55:34 <mwichmann> but I think that logic may not go back to pre-3.0
14:55:40 <mwichmann> or soemthing
14:55:57 * mwichmann is getting headache trying to remember stuff he's been ignoring recently
14:55:58 <licquia> the detail page looks right
14:56:34 <licquia> #agreed close 1391 as resolved
14:58:07 <licquia> #action update Uplift Target wiki page with current status on glibc bugs
14:58:39 <licquia> alright; close to top of the hour; anything else before we close the meeting?
14:59:33 <mwichmann> whee, try to call ride service to let them know delay, they have a toll-free number that works only in Bay Area :)
14:59:45 <mwichmann> yes, can close meeting
14:59:54 <licquia> fun
14:59:55 <mwichmann> not that *I* am going anywhere for several hours....
14:59:59 <licquia> #endmeeting